Renewable energy: Frustration over cost of trying to go green

Posted: June 6, 2022 by oldbrew in climate, Energy, net zero
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Domestic Air Source Heat Pump [image credit: UK Alternative Energy]


Massive hidden charges scupper a home heat pump plan. Meanwhile we’re fed tales of millions of UK heat pumps running on Moroccan solar power by 2030, in pursuit of ‘net zero’ climate targets as per government propaganda. Reality suggests otherwise.
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A County Down woman has said she is “overwhelmingly disappointed” that a connection charge of thousands of pounds has dashed her hopes of installing an environmentally-friendly air source heat pump at her new-build house, reports BBC News.

After a lifetime working in the environment sector, Celia Spouncer and her partner, David Thompson, wanted to build a home that was as efficient as possible and would allow them to be part of what Celia thought of as the green revolution.

“It’s driven into you, it’s all about air tightness in the build,” she said.

“We have really thick insulation and we got the thicker cavity wall and now we’re feeling the benefit of that.

“We have a wood stove and we’re putting in a mechanical heat recovery system so that means the heat is redistributed evenly through the building, and that just left what choice we had with regard to our heating source.”

But the dream ended when Celia contacted NIE to arrange connection for the air source heat pump they had chosen.

“We were told that, where we are, that we would need to spend a lot of money on increasing the capacity of the transformer and putting in extra wiring, and it was going to come in at something like £16,000 to put in that additional improvement to the network so that we could put a low carbon energy source in.”

‘Big green tank’

The transformer, a grey box on a nearby pole, distributes power to the houses connected to it.

Celia says NIE told her the box did not have the capacity to support an air source heat pump, while maintaining supply to the other connected properties.

“I’m just kind of overwhelmingly disappointed that’s where we’re at.

“So we’ve reverted to an oil boiler and the heart sinks really to see that big green tank outside and particularly the current situation with the energy crisis and everything.”

Full report here.

Comments
  1. […] Renewable energy: Frustration over cost of trying to go green […]

  2. JB says:

    “For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it? Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him, Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.”

  3. Gamecock says:

    ‘The transformer, a grey box on a nearby pole, distributes power to the houses connected to it.’

    So, the fantastic journalist . . .

    By Louise Cullen
    BBC NI Agriculture & Environment Correspondent

    . . . doesn’t know what a transformer is, and couldn’t be bothered to find out.

    And her editor didn’t know either, and didn’t bother to find out, and let it be published.

    This is beyond ignorance, it is stupid.

  4. oldbrew says:

    “So we’ve reverted to an oil boiler and the heart sinks really to see that big green tank outside and particularly the current situation with the energy crisis and everything.”
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    It’s the impending electricity crisis that’s going to really hurt. All those electric cars, cookers and heat pumps chasing scarce supplies whenever the weather’s not renewables-friendly.

  5. Gamecock says:

    ‘the company which aims to build a 3,800-kilometre cable to connect Morocco and the UK’

    ‘This project is magic because it’s all proven technology’

    No. That is 50% longer than any long transmission line.

    ‘The site is predicted to supply 3.6GW of renewable energy to the UK for an average of 20 hours a day.’

    Cos Brits only need heat 20 hours a day.

    + No mention of how solar will work 20 hours a day.

    One wonders why they wouldn’t sell the power to someone closer, like Madrid.

  6. Saighdear says:

    Huh, I see this almost “every day” … wait ? – Naw! – you’ll see for yourselves when there’s more EVs ( IF ) … and there MAY have been bigger changes dependent upon tonights voting outcome ( NOT) – but will it yield more WORSE targets and legislation?

  7. Graeme No.3 says:

    I wonder if they are allowing for losses in the magical solution transmission line. If 3600 is the proposed capacity in Morocco they would be lucky to get just over 2900 in the UK. (5% loss per 1,000 kms.)
    And solar 20 hours a day? Millions of hamsters on treadmills?

  8. Derek Colman says:

    This couple will still benefit greatly from the extent of the insulation installed for a heat pump. Their oil fired boiler will be very cheap to run, so the increased cost of oil will not hurt their bank account.

  9. dscott8186 says:

    If you know anything about heatpumps you would go with ground source instead of air.

    You could recover from this mistake by trenching an 8 in diameter pvc pipe about 50 ft by 4 ft deep, . Set up a cowling around the heatpump connected to the underground pipe to draw the air through it with a goose neck above ground on the other end. Think of it as an adaptation of the an earth tube.

    https://www.monolithic.org/blogs/presidents-sphere/underground-air-piping

  10. Curious George says:

    Scott, a guy did that and the soil around the pipe kept freezing and re-freezing, finally it broke the pipe.

  11. dennisambler says:

    https://geothermal-energy-journal.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s40517-017-0067-y

    In recent years, some spectacular cases of damage occurred with vertical ground source heat pump (GSHP) systems in Germany. Broad media coverage attracted enormous public attention, with reports about land subsidence and ground uplifts causing severe damage to buildings.

    Consequently, sales of vertical GSHP systems have declined. The current study develops conceptual models illustrating the causes and effects of damage in relation to geological and hydrogeological settings. Our investigations revealed nine cases of serious damage in Germany, causing financial losses of more than 100 million Euros. In most cases, connection of aquifers by leaky annular space grouting was the main cause of damage.

    Guidelines to regulate the installation of vertical GSHP systems have been introduced successfully in all federal states. However, further risk minimisation strategies must be developed to restore the public’s confidence in GSHP technology. Quality assurance and quality control measures should include in particular the optimisation of backfilling materials and increasing use of monitoring systems.

  12. Chaswarnertoo says:

    Green, gullible, easily fooled, naive, inexperienced, 🤣🤣🤣

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