Met Office and Microsoft to build climate supercomputer

Posted: April 22, 2021 by oldbrew in climate, Forecasting, MET office, modelling, weather
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Weather forecasting technology

Before they even build it, everyone knows what kind of answers the ‘climate supercomputer’ will be required to produce. These will then be presented as evidence of the pre-conceived climate theories, which will be tagged as ‘science’ and everyone will be expected to be impressed.
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The Met Office will work with Microsoft on a supercomputer which will help model climate change, says BBC News.

They say it will provide more accurate weather forecasting and a better understanding of climate change.

The UK government said in February 2020 it would invest £1.2bn in the project.

It is expected to be one of the top 25 supercomputers in the world when it is up and running in the summer of 2022. Microsoft plans to update it over the next decade as computing improves.

“This partnership is an impressive public investment in the basic and applied sciences of weather and climate,” said Morgan O’Neill, assistant professor at Stanford University, who is independent of the project.

“Such a major investment in a state-of-the-art weather and climate prediction system by the UK is great news globally, and I look forward to the scientific advances that will follow.”

The Met Office said the technology would increase their understanding of the weather – and will allow people to better plan activities, prepare for inclement weather and get a better understanding of climate change.

“Working together we will provide the highest quality weather and climate datasets and ever more accurate forecasts that enable decisions to allow people to stay safe and thrive,” said Penny Endersby, chief executive of the Met Office.

Microsoft UK chief executive Clare Barclay said the supercomputer would help the UK remain at the forefront of climate science.

Full article here.

Comments
  1. saighdear says:

    Saighdear from Scotland says: Whaaat? another one ?

  2. Gamecock says:

    Their problem isn’t hardware. Their problem is software. Bigger computers do nothing, except give bad answers quicker.

  3. JB says:

    Guess what it will be doing when it isn’t crunching weather data….

    Really, how often and how long does it take to run a projection?

  4. Dave Ward says:

    “Really, how often and how long does it take to run a projection?”

    Hopefully not long enough for one of MS’s forced software updates to step in and ruin it!

  5. MrGrimNasty says:

    60 petaflops and every forecast a megaflop.

  6. Kip Hansen says:

    Improving weather prediction is a terrific and worthy goal.

    Let’s hope they don’t get suckered into wasting all that lovely computing power trying (and repeatedly failing) to predict the future.

  7. oldbrew says:

    It’s not called ‘a state-of-the-art weather and climate prediction system’ for nothing.

    They intend to try and predict the climate, which has not exactly been a roaring success for them to date.

  8. Peter Norman says:

    Climate change, climate change, climate change, control-alt-del. Microsoft can diagnose and fix the problem with climate. I am not a robot: Tick the boxes with climate activists.

  9. oldbrew says:

    The great climate yawn…

  10. Graeme No.3 says:

    “Microsoft plans to update it over the next decade as computing improves.”
    WOW! Not only £1,200 million down the drain but even more costs for years ahead.

  11. I started running simulations for NASA with state of the art computers of the time, in 1963, when I was a 19 year old, freshman in College, VPI now Virginia Tech, coop, working with the Manned Spacecraft Center in Houston Texas, on Gemini and Apollo. They are promoting a new supercomputer to solve the climate problems. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-56840169

    They do not understand what causes climate change and therefore bigger and faster computers just help them pump out wrong answers much faster. If you understand a problem, you can make simple, back of the envelope calculations to get a good approximation and you can spend more time and money to get a better answer. When you do not understand a problem, you skip the back of the envelope answer because everyone would see the errors in it. You go straight to an extremely complicated computer model that no one can understand and no one can explain all the reasons it pumps out junk instead of answers. With that much money, it is easy to pay people to say the junk is really valid.

    Herman A (Alex) Pope

    On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 5:10 AM Tallbloke’s Talkshop wrote:

    > oldbrew posted: ” Before they even build it, everyone knows what kind of > answers the ‘climate supercomputer’ will be required to produce. These will > then be presented as evidence of the pre-conceived climate theories, which > will be tagged as ‘science’ and everyone will be” >

  12. ivan says:

    Conclusions that can be drawn:
    a) the met office has some money left over at the end of their fiscal year that they must spend or lose.
    b) the hardware will be supplied by IBM or Dell.
    c) the software will be based on Ubuntu Linux but hacked over by Microsoft programmers to include the necessary number of bugs.
    d) Bill Gates will get a gold star for his contribution to global cooling, global warming, climate change climate ???
    e) the people at the met office will be able to play the new game ‘Climate Change Wars’ at top speed.
    f) they have forgotten the first rule of computing ‘the more garbage you put in the more garbage you get out.

  13. Phoenix44 says:

    They don’t understand the nonsense they say. The model the computer runs can only be as good as our understanding. It cannot increase our understanding. Simply producing more detailed numbers isn’t more understanding if the model is wrong or incomplete. Nor will forecasts be more accurate if your model is wrong.

    The problem is we don’t understand huge amounts of the climate. Bigger computers aren’t going to help with that much.

  14. oldbrew says:

    Global warming trend is only half of what climate modellers have predicted
    Date: 23/04/21 Roy Spencer

    42 years of satellite observations shows that warming is occurring much more slowly than the average climate model has predicted.
    . . .
    I am merely pointing out the level of faith that is involved in the adjustments made to climate models, which necessarily produce warming due to increasing CO2 because those models simply assume that there is no other source of warming.

    https://www.thegwpf.com/happy-earth-day-warming-trend-is-only-half-of-what-climate-modellers-have-predicted/
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    No surprise, but let’s pretend they were accurate anyway and bring in drastic policies 🙄

    If the new ‘super’ computer is to continue with the same failing assumptions, the same poor results are inevitable and the alarmist merry-go-round will keep running just as before.

  15. Mack says:

    £1.2 billion on a supercomputer heh? Methinks it’ll probably have the carbon footprint of a small city but, outside of a couple of weeks, the forecasting ability of my old granny’s ouija board.

  16. Stephen Richards says:

    Every time they are about to get a new super super duper computer they roll out the same old BS. When will the populace stop believing these charlatans.

  17. Gamecock says:

    BWTM. Every justification for a new super computer is an admission of failure. A withdrawal of certification of all previous results.

    And, in a few years, THIS fabulous computer will be declared no good and must be replaced. The cycle is absurd. And expensive.

  18. E.M.Smith says:

    Computer models of climate are iterative.
    They do many steps, over and over and over.
    Every step has some error contribution.
    Be it due to machine epsilon being improperly handled
    Or the chaotic nature of the underlying systems
    Or repetitive math just grinding down the valid precision.

    A Bigger Computer just enhances all those things to make the error bars even larger. The more you iterate, in a chaotic system, the worse your results.

    We already know that the climate models do not converge, this will just generate more divergence.

  19. oldbrew says:

    If bigger is better, all the other climate modelling computers need upgrading too.

  20. oldbrew says:

    Slight delay to climate salvation possible…

    Cisco says computer chip shortage to last six months

    The problems have been worsened by a string of other factors, including a fire at a semiconductor factory and weather issues.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56847518
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    Weather issues?

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